Here is an article from Phujatkan, translated by 2Bangkok.com. I cut big parts - that are mere anti-Thaksin rantings IMO - of the 2B text because my point of interest is its description of two Thai political factions. Although it's not the first time I read such things, I don't understand the Thai political concept of 'Maoists' (supporters of TS?) and the 'old guard' (junta's supporters?). Any light from our Thailand's aficionados would be appreciated.
Non-enlightened Mort _
From the Finland Declaration to the Nepal Strategy - Regime change through constitutional amendment and ballot. Translated and summarized from Phujatkan Author: Chiewchawana, April 29, 2008
Below, I have described the background history of Thaksin Shinawatras rise to power. Thaksin Shinawatra did not begin his business career in the usual manner. His financial success in business owed more to his manipulation of influential contacts, rather than to his managerial acumen alone. (...)Thaksin went on to enter politics, and he established his Thai Rak Thai Party (TRT) in 1998 - on the same day on which the French monarchy had been deposed, 209 years earlier. Thaksin was to spend a great deal of his own money building an effective campaign team for TRT. Many members of his team were former members of the (Maoist) Communist Party of Thailand. The Thaksin team also contained individuals who had previously supported the October 14 democratic reform movement. The formation of TRT was a great success, as certain groups of conservatives - in the TRT camp - appeared willing to eschew their former political philosophy for the benefits of Thaksins money. Thus Thai society was able to witness a growing political rift between the political aspirations of its disenchanted former Maoists and its old guard of bureaucrats - who continued to doggedly serve the notion of an absolute monarchy. These two political poles are now locked in mortal combat, with the former committed to serving the needs of modern-day capitalism, and the latter committed to preventing the rise of TRTs capitalist supporters to the main seat of power. (...)It is obvious to me that our nations system of democracy, under a constitutional monarchy, faces grave risks from Thaksins continual craving for power. Thaksin is now able to largely dictate the course of Thai politics, in addition to being able to control the fate of those politicians who either favor or oppose him. During Thaksins tenure in government, a great deal of corruption is alleged to have taken place. It is also noteworthy that, after Thaksins initial rise to power, many websites sprang up to portray our monarchy in a negative light. The Thai Royalty commands the highest respect of the vast majority of Thais, but those wrongdoers who seek to discredit HM the King - many of whom receive Thaksins tacit support - have yet to receive the ultimate penalty [of lese majesté prosecution] for their crimes. The Thaksin governments abused many of the powers they were granted through the ballot box. Not only did the Thaksin administration initiate a policy that promoted the extra-judicial killing of drug-dealers, but it also used those same powers to victimize and silence its critics in non-governmental organizations. The September 19 coup in 2006 took place under the leadership of the Council for National Security (CNS). That coup was an attempt to oppose Thaksins attempt to rise to absolute power over all aspects of Thai society. (...)PM Surayuds administration tried to pursue policies that promoted greater political peace and harmony in Thai society, but it proved to be incapable of ridding the country of Thaksins absolutist undercurrents. The pro-Thaksin (AKA old power) group has now returned to run this country. I believe that this return places our constitutional monarchy in great jeopardy. It should be noted that many websites are once again openly engaged in denouncing the institutions of our monarchy - including the President of the Privy Council. This difference is that, this time around, these anti-monarchy groups are even more aggressive in their condemnations of our august institutions.
On Fri, 09 May 2008 18:28:49 GMT, Bl...@Runner.com (Deckard) wrote: >Here is an article from Phujatkan, translated by 2Bangkok.com. >I cut big parts - that are mere anti-Thaksin rantings IMO - of the 2B >text because my point of interest is its description of two Thai >political factions. >Although it's not the first time I read such things, I don't >understand the Thai political concept of 'Maoists' (supporters of TS?) >and the 'old guard' (junta's supporters?). >Any light from our Thailand's aficionados would be appreciated.
>Non-enlightened Mort >_
>From the Finland Declaration to the Nepal Strategy - Regime change >through constitutional amendment and ballot. >Translated and summarized from Phujatkan >Author: Chiewchawana, April 29, 2008
>Below, I have described the background history of Thaksin Shinawatra s >rise to power. >Thaksin Shinawatra did not begin his business career in the usual >manner. His financial success in business owed more to his >manipulation of influential contacts, rather than to his managerial >acumen alone. (...)Thaksin went on to enter politics, and he >established his Thai Rak Thai Party (TRT) in 1998 - on the same day on >which the French monarchy had been deposed, 209 years earlier. >Thaksin was to spend a great deal of his own money building an >effective campaign team for TRT. Many members of his team were >former members of the (Maoist) Communist Party of Thailand. The >Thaksin team also contained individuals who had previously supported >the October 14 democratic reform movement. The formation of TRT was >a great success, as certain groups of conservatives - in the TRT camp >- appeared willing to eschew their former political philosophy for the >benefits of Thaksin s money. Thus Thai society was able to witness a >growing political rift between the political aspirations of its >disenchanted former Maoists and its old guard of bureaucrats - who >continued to doggedly serve the notion of an absolute monarchy . >These two political poles are now locked in mortal combat, with the >former committed to serving the needs of modern-day capitalism, and >the latter committed to preventing the rise of TRT s capitalist >supporters to the main seat of power. >(...)It is obvious to me that our nation s system of democracy, under >a constitutional monarchy, faces grave risks from Thaksin s continual >craving for power. Thaksin is now able to largely dictate the course >of Thai politics, in addition to being able to control the fate of >those politicians who either favor or oppose him. During Thaksin s >tenure in government, a great deal of corruption is alleged to have >taken place. It is also noteworthy that, after Thaksin s initial rise >to power, many websites sprang up to portray our monarchy in a >negative light. The Thai Royalty commands the highest respect of the >vast majority of Thais, but those wrongdoers who seek to discredit HM >the King - many of whom receive Thaksin s tacit support - have yet to >receive the ultimate penalty [of lese majest prosecution] for their >crimes. >The Thaksin governments abused many of the powers they were granted >through the ballot box. Not only did the Thaksin administration >initiate a policy that promoted the extra-judicial killing of >drug-dealers, but it also used those same powers to victimize and >silence its critics in non-governmental organizations. >The September 19 coup in 2006 took place under the leadership of the >Council for National Security (CNS). That coup was an attempt to >oppose Thaksin s attempt to rise to absolute power over all aspects of >Thai society. >(...)PM Surayud s administration tried to pursue policies that >promoted greater political peace and harmony in Thai society, but it >proved to be incapable of ridding the country of Thaksin s > absolutist undercurrents. The pro-Thaksin (AKA old power ) group >has now returned to run this country. I believe that this return >places our constitutional monarchy in great jeopardy. It should be >noted that many websites are once again openly engaged in denouncing >the institutions of our monarchy - including the President of the >Privy Council. This difference is that, this time around, these >anti-monarchy groups are even more aggressive in their condemnations >of our august institutions.
You left out quite a bit of background. for example, Taksin was a police Colonel(?), one might have commented on how promotion is achieved in the Thai Police. Taksin's first business coup was being awarded a contract to supply computers to the police department, one might comment on how an individual receives a Thai government contract of that nature.
I could go on but it appears that Taksin is a figure from the past so why bother.
Cheers,
schweik (Correct Address is goodsoldierschweikatgmaildotcom)
On May 10, 1:28 am, "Dickhead" <runs so hard that the ship drops of his pai...@Runner.com> stumbled in message news:4311face. 1876...@news.free.fr... (where the fuck is free france)...
> Although it's not the first time I read such things, I don't > understand the Thai political concept of 'Maoists' (supporters of TS?)
Your understanding is next to nothing. he coward?
Didn't you wrote also: "I ask this question because as a Farang, I understand nothing about cultural differences between people from different Asian countries."
A COWARD and a FRENCH asshole on top of that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: Mort <M...@moro.com> (Deckard) Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai Message-Id: <3ea45c8e.2645176@news.free.fr> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 21:05:16 Subject: Re: My (ex) Thai girlfriend
I don't want to give here too many details but FYI the trouble I got with my three girl-friends is: - infidelity with the first one, - repetitive lies ("white lies") with the 2d, - disagreement about "sin sod" with my present friend.
The last one was not a problem of money, as you may think, but the comparative importance of our (future) children and her parents.
My point is simply that you can find a Thai lady who is not only after your money but still have trouble, often worsened by the culture difference.
I ask this question because as a Farang, I understand nothing about cultural differences between people from different Asian countries. My g/f is a Thai-Chinese from Bangkok and a divorcee from a Singaporian man. She rarely speaks about her ex-husband. But once she told me she was surprised at the differences between Latin men and Singaporian men in ordinary life ( she knew your state pretty well ).
Despite my questions, she never explained this quote. _
Support mentally defective and severely stoned Yaba addicted pedofiles who publish their drug stories in "alt.hard.drugs":
>>Here is an article from Phujatkan, translated by 2Bangkok.com. >>I cut big parts - that are mere anti-Thaksin rantings IMO - of the 2B >>text because my point of interest is its description of two Thai >>political factions. >>Although it's not the first time I read such things, I don't >>understand the Thai political concept of 'Maoists' (supporters of TS?) >>and the 'old guard' (junta's supporters?). >>Any light from our Thailand's aficionados would be appreciated.
>>Non-enlightened Mort >>_
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>You left out quite a bit of background. for example, Taksin was a >police Colonel(?), one might have commented on how promotion is >achieved in the Thai Police. Taksin's first business coup was being >awarded a contract to supply computers to the police department, one >might comment on how an individual receives a Thai government contract >of that nature.
Actually, Phujatkan describes itself as a website "widely renowned" for its anti-Thaksin political stance. So my point was not Thaksin himself but the description of present Thai political factions, something that I dont understand.
>I could go on but it appears that Taksin is a figure from the past so >why bother.
This is what TS said (about Thai politics) but some people still don't believe the Great CEO.